Venue: Civic Hall, Leeds
Contact: Angela Bloor (0113) 24 74754 Email: angela.bloor@leeds.gov.uk
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Chair's opening remarks Minutes: The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.
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Late Items
To identify items which have been admitted to the agenda by the Chair for consideration.
(The special circumstances shall be specified in the minutes.)
Minutes: Although there were no formal late items, the Panel was in receipt of the following supplementary information:
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Declaration of Disclosable Pecuniary and other Interests To disclose or draw attention to any disclosable pecuniary interests for the purposes of Section 31 of the Localism Act 2011 and paragraphs 13-18 of the Members’ Code of Conduct. Also to declare any other significant interests which the Member wishes to declare in the public interest, in accordance with paragraphs 19-20 of the Members’ Code of Conduct
Minutes: No declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests were made, however the declaration of another interest was made later in the meeting (minute 43 refers).
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Apologies for Absence and Notification of Substitutes To receive any apologies for absence and notification of substitutes.
Minutes: Apologies for absence had been received from Councillors Armitage; Bentley and Bruce. Councillor Ingham was in attendance as a substitute for Councillor Bruce and Councillor Urry was present in place of Councillor Armitage.
Apologies were also received from Betty Smithson.
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To approve the minutes from the following meetings of Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care:
27th June 2012 25th July 2012 9th August 2012
(minutes attached)
Additional documents: Minutes: The Board considered the minutes from the 27th June 2012 and 25th July 2012 meetings of Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care) and also from the Call-In meeting held on 9th August 2012
With reference to minute 24 of the Scrutiny Board meeting held on 25th July 2012 relating to the review of Children’s Congenital Cardiac Services in England, the Chair was asked to update the Board on the current situation regarding referring the decision to the Secretary of State for Health
The Chair referred to the length of time it was taking to assemble the case for submission, due to the difficultly obtaining information from the Safe and Sustainable Review Team, which seemed reluctant to respond to requests for information. Of particular concern was the unwillingness to provide basic documents, for example, reports and agendas, of various meetings- something that for Local Authorities meetings, were routinely published.
The Chair stated that this did not accord with Freedom of Information or open government and expressed his view that a decision properly taken should be able to be defended. The difficulty in obtaining information to support the decision of the Joint Committee of Primary Care Trusts could lead one to the suspicion, that despite considerable public engagement, and a period of public consultation on proposals for the future of Children’s Heart Surgery, the decision to move service to Newcastle, where a Heart Transplant Unit was located, had been made at an early stage.
RESOLVED –
(a) To approve the minutes of the following meetings of Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care):
· 27th June 2012 · 25th July 2012 · 9th August 2012
(b) To note the verbal update on the Review of Children’s Congenital Cardiac Services provided by the Chair |
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To receive and consider the attached report of the Director of Adult Social Services Minutes: Further to minute 28 of the Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care) meeting held on 28th October 2012, where the Board considered a request for Scrutiny in relation to meeting the needs of blind and visually impaired people in Leeds and established a working group to consider this matter, the Board considered a report of the Director of Adult Social Services providing feedback on how the previous Board’s recommendations had been progressed.
It was noted that a visit had been made to the facilities at Fairfax House by representatives of the Scrutiny Board, earlier in the week.
Attending for this item to present the report and respond to questions and comments from the Board were:
The Board was presented with a report that outlined the measures carried out immediately following the previous Scrutiny Board’s recommendations about improvements to aspects of the service provided.
A brief introduction of te re[port was provided, following which the Board raised a number of questions about the services provided for blind and visually impaired people in Leeds by Leeds Vision Consortium.
The main points of discussion related to:
Whilst welcoming the changes that had been made to services and noting the positive feedback from the recent visit to Fairfax House, the need to obtain direct feedback from service users/ stakeholders was highlighted – particularly in cases where an issue had been raised with the Scrutiny Board for investigation.
RESOLVED - a) To note the report and the actions that were undertaken by Adult Social Care and Leeds Vision Consortium to address the recommendations of the previous Scrutiny Board; b) To note the comments made and the information provided; c) That a further report be provided in six months time that included the following information/ details: · The number and age profile of blind and partially sighted people across Leeds; · The number ... view the full minutes text for item 40. |
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Mental Health Needs Assessment PDF 58 KB To receive and consider the attached report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development Additional documents: Minutes: Further to minute 6 of the Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care) meeting held on 27th June 2012 where mental health issues were identified as an area for consideration by the Board, Members received a report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development providing information on issues around the provision of mental health services together with details on the Leeds Mental Health Needs Assessment (MHNA), May 2011.
Attending for this item to present the report and respond to the Board’s questions and comments were:
Nigel Gray introduced the report and referred to the data that had been obtained through the MHNA and stated the importance of using this data to inform decision-making and service commissioning and to link into the Joint Health and Wellbeing Strategy.
Reference was made to the recommendations in the MHNA which contained a mix of specific examples of work to be undertaken, together with some long-term, strategic recommendations including how resources could be utilised.
The integration of social care teams with the Leeds and York Partnership Trust and the benefits this would bring in providing services was highlighted.
The Board was also informed about proposals for the transformation of mental health day services in Leeds, with a three month consultation process being embarked upon with service users to consider retaining two of the three mental health day care centres and looking at the future of The Vale, in Hunslet. The Board was assured that nothing would change at The Vale until alternative services had been put in place. The Board was informed that service users had identified the importance of retaining staff-led and user-led recovery groups as well as safe spaces, with Adult Social Care looking to develop a number of small community bases to help fulfil these requirements.
Detailed discussion took place, with the following key areas being raised:
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Leeds Suicide Audit (2008-2010) PDF 60 KB To receive and consider the attached report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development Additional documents:
Minutes: With reference to the previous agenda item (Minute 41 refers), the Board considered a specific report from the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development which related to one of the key recommendations identified in the Leeds Mental Health Needs Assessment; the requirement to undertake a suicide audit for the City. Appended to the report was a copy of the audit for 2008-2010, for Members’ consideration.
Attending for this item to present the report and respond to the Board’s questions and comments were:
Councillor Mulherin, Executive Board Member for Health and Wellbeing – Leeds City Council was also in attendance.
The Chair stated that Councillors from the Armley Ward, who had raised some concerns around the levels of suicides in the LS12 area of the City, had been invited to attend the meeting, however apologies had been received due to unavoidable circumstances.
Members were informed that ,nationally, this issue was being given prominence, with a National Suicide Prevention Strategy being launched by the Government earlier in September 2012..
A summary of the key findings of the Leeds Suicide Audit were included in the report, with the headlines being given as:
Councillor Mulherin stated there was a need to target work around white males and also in the LS12 area which had been identified in the audit as seeing the highest incidences of residents taking their own lives, with 21 of the 179 people (approximately 12%) having an LS12 postcode.
Other areas of importance highlighted by Councillor Mulherin were:
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Quarterly Performance Report PDF 91 KB To receive and consider the attached report of the Assistant Chief Executive (Customer Access and Performance) Additional documents:
Minutes: Prior to consideration of this item, Councillors Ingham and Robinson left the meeting.
The Assistant Chief Executive (Customer Access and Performance) submitted a report which presented a summary of the quarter 1 performance data relevant to the Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care)
The following information was appended to the report:
Attending for this item and to respond to queries and comments raised by the Board were:
The Board was informed that due to the length of discussions on the previous items, Brenda Fullard (Consultant in Public Health) – NHS Airedale, Bradford and Leeds had needed to leave for another meeting. The Board decided to defer consideration of the Q1 performance relating to health but to examine issues arising from the data in respect of Adult Social Care.
Stuart Cameron-Strickland presented the report which outlined specific matters that related to the provison of Adult Social Care services.
Members discussed the report and focussed on personalised budgets, with the following information being provided:
At this point Joy Fisher declared an interest through her involvement with the Centre for Integrated Living.
RESOLVED – To note the Q1 performance information provided for Adult Social Care and to consider the Health and Wellbeing element of the report at the next meeting.
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NHS Airedale, Bradford and Leeds - Performance Report PDF 61 KB To receive and consider the attached report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development Additional documents:
Minutes: The Board considered a report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member Development providing:
The following representatives attended the meeting to present the report and respond to Members’ questions and comments:
Members were informed that with the move from Primary Care Trusts (PCTs) to CCGs, the reporting of performance would be routed to CCGs, rather than the PCT Cluster Board. To facilitate this, the CCGs had formed sub-committees of the PCT Cluster Board.
In respect of the PCTs, Nigel Gray assured Members that whilst staff had been made redundant as part of the changes, there would be sufficient staff to carry through the transitional functions. In terms of the CCG arrangements, Nigel Gray advised that further information could be provided in a separate session if the Board wished.
The Board then considered the detailed performance information which had been circulated as a supplementary document.
The main areas of discussion related to:
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a) To note the information presented in the NHS Airedale, Bradford and Leeds Cluster Board, including the amended information on the transitional performance monitoring and assurance processes circulated at the meeting. b) That consideration be given to setting up a Working Group of the Scrutiny Board (Health and Wellbeing and Adult Social Care) to consider the arrangements around the formal implementation of the three CCGs in Leeds, from April 2013. c) That narrative information be provided in a future report to identify the root causes of some of the delays around urgent and emergency ambulance journeys.
During consideration of this matter, Councillors Murray, Urry and Walker left ... view the full minutes text for item 44. |
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Work Programme Report to follow Minutes: The Chair referred to the amount of time being taken up with preparing the case for the review of the decision on Children’s Congenital Heart Surgery and because of this it had not been possible to submit a formal work programme for the Board’s consideration. However, the decisions taken by the Board for further reports and scrutiny in relation to:
would be entered into the Board’s Work Programme.
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Date and Time of the Next Meeting Wednesday 24th October 2012 at 10.00am (pre meeting for all Board Members at 9.30am)
Minutes: Wednesday 24th October 2012 at 10.00am – Pre-meeting for all Board Members at 9.30am
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