The report of the Head of Scrutiny and Member
Development introduced additional information provided by Leeds
Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust (LTHT) in
response to information provided by the JCPCT.
The Chair welcomed the following to the
meeting:
- Stacey Hunter, Divisional General
manager, Children’s Services, LTHT
- John Thomson, Paediatric
Cardiologist, LTHT
Additional information relating to the
potential delivery of three nationally commissioned services,
namely Extra Corporeal Membrane
Oxygenation (ECMO), Heart Transplant
services and Complex Tracheal Surgery, by LTHT was outlined in the report.
Following a brief presentation and
introduction of the report, the following issues, including
comments and questions from members of the Joint HOSC, were
discussed:
- LTHT
felt that the JCPCT evaluation of their
ability to be capable of providing an Extra Corporeal Membrane Oxygenation (ECMO) service was inconsistent and it was unclear
how the conclusion had been reached that the Trust would be unable
to deliver such a service. It was felt
that LTHT did have the capacity to
develop the service within the timescale for development and
providing the necessary training. It
was felt that there had not been a comprehensive options appraisal.
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- There were 18 beds in the Paediatric
Intensive Care Unit at LTHT.
- LTHT had
still not had a detailed breakdown of how the assessments had been
scored by the JCPCT or been given an
opportunity to reply.
- It was felt that population density
across Yorkshire and the Humber had not been taken properly into
account when the overall options had been prepared for public
consultation.
- LTHT did
not consider themselves to be a low volume centre. Four of the
other centres in the proposed options carried out a significantly
smaller number of procedures, two other centres carried out a
comparable number of procedures and only three centres carried out
more procedures.
- While it was recognised that the
review only considered services in England, it was felt it would
have been appropriate to include Scotland when considering the
likely total number of surgical procedures and therefore the number
of surgical centres required.
- It was felt that services for adults
should have also been included within the scope of the review, and
not subject to a separate review process that would not be
concluded until the outcome of the Children’s review was
known. Members believed that this
approach would inevitably predetermine the review of services for
adults.
- There were significant issues
relating to capacity planning and, yet to be resolved issues,
around projected patient flows, and concern that children and
families (many from Yorkshire and the Humber) would have to travel
further so that other hospitals/ surgical centres could reach the
suggested number of procedures.
- It was reported that the patient
flow analysis carried out by Price, Waterhouse and Cooper would not
be available before the Joint HOSC’s October 2011 consultation
deadline. This was felt to be
unsatisfactory as the Joint HOSC had to
submit its response to the JCPCT by 5
October, 2011.
- It had been accepted by the
JCPCT that there had been some factual
inaccuracies associated with the assessment of LTHT.
- Work carried out between the
SCG and LTHT that demonstrated that LTHT provided more co-located services than other
units in other options that did not include Leeds..
RESOLVED –
(a)
That the report and discussion be noted.
(b)
That the issues raised be incorporated into the Joint HOSCs response to the
proposed changes to Children’s Congenital Heart Services in
England and the proposed reconfiguration of designated surgical
centres, and its associated report.