The Chief Officer
Elections and Regulatory submitted a report for Members
consideration on an application for the grant of a premises licence
made by Jon Atkin Ltd, for Kasa, 278A Belle Isle
Road, Belle Isle, Leeds, LS10 3QJ.
Attending the meeting were:
- Chris Rees-Gay, Woods
Whur, Applicant’s Representative
- Aqueel Bashir,
Director, Jon Atkin Ltd, Applicant
- Warren King, Acoustic
Expert
- Councillor Wayne
Dixon, Middleton Park Ward
- Vanessa Holroyd,
Environmental Protection Team
- Lisa Starbrook,
Public Objector
- Tracy Morris, Public
Objector
The Legal officer explained the procedure for
the hearing.
The Licensing Officer presented the
application informing the Members of the following points:
- The application had
been made by Jon Atkin Ltd. for a convenience store which was
currently licensed under the Licensing Act 2023 and proposed to
authorise alcohol sales for consumption off the premises for 24
hours a day, 7 days a week.
- Responsible
authorities and Ward Members had been notified on the application
and had attracted representations from Ward Members, responsible
authorities and other persons.
- The premises
currently benefited from a premises license for the sale by retail
of alcohol from Monday to Sunday from the hours of 7:00 to 23:00
and the new application was for Monday to Sunday, 24 hours a
day.
- A copy of the
application form was available at appendix A, a map detailing the
location of the premises at appendix B, a copy of the Environmental
Protection Team’s (EPT) objection at Appendix C, a copy of
the agreed conditions with West Yorkshire Police (WYP) was
available at Appendix D, Ward Members and Local MP objection, along
with 30 public objection letters were available at appendix E.
- 10 of the public
objectors were concerned with retribution if their details were
exposed and had not attended the meeting but wanted their comments
considered by the Sub-Committee.
- A letter in support
of the application was available at appendix F.
The applicant’s representatives provided
the Sub-Committee with the following information:
·
Grant of the application was sought, with the agreed WYP conditions
attached.
·
The premises was a small convenience store and the new application
had been submitted in response to customers requesting increased
hours to purchase products, including alcohol.
·
Support for the application was demonstrated by the petition of
support detailed from pages 7 to 91 of the first supplementary
information pack for item 6. 198 signatures and 78 support letters
contrasted the 30 objection letters.
·
The convenience store had been in operation for 13 years, had
previously been a pub and no enforcement action was noted for the
premises.
·
The applicant and Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS) had held a
personal license since 2003, which had been renewed in 2014.
·
Kasa was a chain of stores with four owned in Leeds by the
applicant’s family members.
·
If the application were granted, two new members of staff would be
recruited.
·
The DPS had supported local football teams financially, including
South Leeds AFC.
·
The application was for offsite sale of alcohol only and the
existing license would be surrendered if the application were
granted.
·
The DPS was a professional operator and had contacted responsible
authorities to discuss appropriate measures for operation.
·
A schedule of proposed conditions were detailed at pages 26 and 27
of the agenda pack, with eight conditions for CCTV provision, along
with WYP proposals at page 38 and were deemed sufficient for
meeting the licensing objectives.
·
As agreed with WYP, customers will not enter the shop past 23:00
and service past this time will be conducted through a hatch, with
appropriate measures in place to discourage people from
congregating outside.
·
Further proposed conditions regarding litter and limiting noise
disturbance to local residents had been submitted as part of
supplementary pack 2. Anti-social behaviour will be discouraged,
and delivery hours restricted.
·
Point 2.18 of the Section 182 guidance
noted matters for personal accountability regarding noise
nuisance.
·
A letter had been sent out to local residents, through
Entertainment Licensing on the 7th of August 2023 but
had received no response.
·
The flat below the shop had submitted a letter of support, detailed
at page 81 of the agenda pack.
·
The EPT’s objection noting noise nuisance was not perceived
to be stemming from the premises and the representation was based
on potential noise and lacked evidence as there were no current
issues for the existing license up to 23:00.
·
The noise assessment, from page 93 of the first supplementary
information pack had noted most of the noise in the area was from
traffic. Noise had been monitored over a four-day period from
Monday the 24th of July to Thursday the 27th
of July 2023.
·
The reference to drugs and gangs in some objection comments had
provided no evidence and if concerns were serious, an agreement
with WYP would not have been reached.
·
A perception that Ward Members had wrote to local residents to
increase objection was outlined.
·
There would be cigarettes but no vapes sold at the premises.
·
In line with the Thwaites Case 2008, applications should be
determined against evidence and not perceived issues.
Responding to questions from Members the
Sub-Committee were informed of the following by the applicant
team:
- No complaints against
the store had been received since its opening from local residents
or businesses.
- It was confirmed the
DPS was the landlord of the carpark and complex of shops of which
Kasa was a part of. This included a vape shop and fencing shop.
Complaints had been received regarding nuisance in the
carpark.
- Anti-social behaviour
issues within the carpark were being rectified through WYP. The
carpark was contained by a small wooden barrier and had a gate
which was always open as the space was shared with the other
businesses in the complex.
- The shop sold beer,
wine and spirits; the majority of sales were low strength beer with
high strength beer noted as being less popular and expensive.
- The representations
regarding anti-social behaviour were not the fault of the store and
the area was noted to be deprived with social issues across the
ward.
- The 24 hours daily
had been applied for due to local demand and a shop run by a family
member under the same name operated in Beeston under a 24-hour
license, with customers often going there after 23:00.
- The petition for
support had been run over three days from the shop and the
convivence element regarding sale of goods such as Calpol and
nappies were offered by supporters to supplement the generic
text.
- Walking and drop off
in taxi’s were the primary way people access the store.
- The Acoustic Expert
outlined the process for the noise assessment as a sound level
meter being attached to the store, on the closest side to
residents, and had been run from 9:30am on the Monday to 12:00 noon
on the Thursday.
- Members noted it may
have provided more insight if the assessment had been run on a
weekend where more disturbance was likely. It was explained that to
provide a clear assessment and a worst case analysis, the
assessment was conducted against the lowest baseline noise level
with background noise increased at weekend.
- The noise assessment
had largely picked up on traffic which would be difficult to
associate with the store. The assessment picked up on the loudest
sound over a 15-minute period against the average background noise
level.
- Members were
sceptical as to how much weight to apply to the noise assessment in
their determination as it was not conducted over the weekend and
the Acoustic Expert had noted some omissions of maximum noise when
not constant.
- Signage and the
ability to refuse service or move people on was noted to discourage
street drinking.
- The application was
submitted as a new application and not a variation on the existing
due to policy of the legal representative, with new applications
allowing firm policy and attached conditions.
- Members noted the
hatch service may increase street drinking, in response it was
outlined the store was not within a Cumulative Impact Area, there
was the WYP signage condition, and the staff will be to go outside
and address any arising problems.
- The complaints
regarding aggregate storage within the carpark were from 2021 and
had only been for a 3-month period.
- The DPS would work
with responsible authorities to address anti-social vehicle use in
the carpark. It was noted that this was less frequent than in
previous years and agreements had been reached with WYP, who would
be objecting if majorly concerned.
- It was not perceived
that the extended licensed hours would encourage other local shops
to apply for the same and the application should be determined on
its own merits.
The objectors addressed the Sub-Committee
providing the Members with the following information:
Environmental
Health (EPT)
- The applicant owned
the attached carpark, where anti-social behaviour, often involving
vehicles occurs.
- There were no other
stores with a 24 hour license to sell alcohol in the locality and
would be a magnet for young people through the night and noise and
disturbance to nearby residents was expected.
- The condition for
service from a hatch after 23:00 hours posed the potential for long
queues outside late at night with no real measures in place to
discourage noise and nuisance such as a security guard.
- People may be able to
purchase alcohol and drink on the streets 24 hours a day.
- The support comment
submitted by the flat below was suspicious as the flat was owned by
the applicant as there may be fear of retribution to complain
against your landlord.
- Nearby residents had
outlined experience of nuisance and feeling unsafe, particularly
focused on anti-social behaviour in the carpark which will likely
increase with extended licensed hours.
- Complaints had been
received when the carpark had been used as an aggregate yard.
- Drunk behaviour and
increased disturbance from cars were expected and the offered
conditions would not go far enough to control nuisance.
- Pubs had the ability
to turn drunk people down whereas, for this model, people could
purchase alcohol for others, not in view of the shop who may be
intoxicated.
- The overnight hours
will encourage loitering and if the application were granted EPT
will have limited powers to deal with arising issues.
Councillor Wayne
Dixon
- Acting in the
capacity as an elected Ward Member and on behalf of local residents
there was a perception that the convenience store had lost the
trust of some locals and there was concern that the hours applied
for showed low consideration for those living nearby.
- The store was used by
nearby residents as there was not a lot of shops in the area and
may suffer from fear of retribution if they were to object.
- The conditioned use
of the hatch at night did not address issues of people congregating
in the carpark and causing disturbance.
- A CCTV camera had bee
funded through the Inner South Community Committee, costing
£35,000 to monitor anti-social behaviour occurring in the
carpark, largely stemming from motor bikes and quad bikes.
- The support comments
in the supplement pack were generic and some had referenced buying
nappies overnight and not alcohol which seemed unusual.
- Approval of this
application will set a precedent for other shops in the ward to
apply for later hours and increase access to alcohol.
- Kasa was located in a
deprived area with access to cigarettes and alcohol 24 hours a day
impacting health outcomes and increasing alcohol and smoking
related diseases. Local alcoholics may struggle with addiction
further with increased access, contributing to social issues.
- Mitigating noise from
cars late at night will be difficult to enforce and there were no
measures for proper security or control for anti-social
behaviour.
Public Objector
- The local resident
lived behind the store and often experienced noise and anti-social
behaviour and was unable to go to bed until after the shop closed
at 23:00 due to the nuisance. Extending the license and opening
hours will heavily impact their sleep.
- The anti-social cars
and bikes using the carpark pose danger and risk to the public,
especially children, with a local nursery unable to let children
play outside due to this.
- The patrons from the
nearby working men’s club will likely use the shop after the
club has closed, encouraging heavy drinking, street drinking, drink
driving and overall disturbance.
- The carpark was often
used by drug users, with cannabis often being openly used which was
undesirable to the local community.
- They were scared to
use the shop at later hours and as living with a disability,
walking to other stores was very difficult.
- Fear of retribution
due to objecting to the application was noted.
Responding to questions from Members the
following information was provided by the objectors:
- The public objectors
noted they had not received the letter that the DPS had sent out on
the 7th of August 2023.
- Councillor Dixon
confirmed he had received the letter via email.
- The Inner South
Community Committee had funded the carpark CCTV camera from June
2022 to June 2023 in order to mitigate and track anti-social
behaviour.
In summing up the applicant’s
representative outlined the following:
- Street drinking was
not an issue for the area and would not be encouraged by the grant
of the new license.
- The loss of trust
with local people was disputed as the store was 13 years into
operation and contact details had been provided to local residents
to assist with addressing concerns.
- There was no notable
evidence for any drug use being encouraged or allowed from the
premises.
- The store was not
located within a Cumulative Impact Area and there was no
enforcement action against the premises.
- If serious concerns
were held regarding anti-social behaviour WYP would be objecting in
their capacity as a responsible authority.
- The operating
schedule was thought to be robust and appropriate to the business
model.
- EPT had provided no
hard evidence for their claims and disturbance was
speculative.
- The application
should be determined against its own merits and objection should be
based on evidence, with reference to the powers of review and the
Thwaites Case 2008.
RESOLVED – To grant the license
as applied for, including the additional conditions and amended
operating schedule as agreed with West Yorkshire Police.