The report of the Chief Officer, Elections and
Regulatory advised the Sub-Committee of an application to vary a
premises licence made by Saqib Ahmed, for Booze Plus, 33 Tong Road,
Farnley, Leeds, LS12 1HQ.
In attendance for the hearing were:
·
Saqib Ahmed – Applicant
·
Constanze Bell –
Applicant’s Representative
·
Sarah Blenkhorn – West Yorkshire Police
·
PCSO Brendan Councill – West Yorkshire Police
·
Vanessa Holroyd – Environmental Protection Team
·
Jonathan Hindley – Public Health
·
Cllr Andy Parnham – Local Ward Councillor for Armley
·
Rob Brown – Legal Officer
·
Matthew Nelson – Entertainment Licensing
The Legal Officer set out the procedure for
the hearing.
The Licensing Officer presented the report,
highlighting the following points:
·
The existing licence authorised sale by retail of alcohol, Monday
to Saturday 08:00 – 23:00 and Sunday 10:00 – 22:30. The
applicant had applied for an extension for sale by retail of
alcohol, everyday 06:00 – 03:00.
·
The Licensing Authority had received a new premises licence in
August 2005 which was granted as applied for. In March 2022, the
premises licence had been transferred to the current licence holder
and there had been a change to the Designated Premises Supervisor.
This application had been granted as applied for. In July 2022 the
premises licence holder had applied to vary the licence to 24 hours
a day, 7 days a week. However, the applicant withdrew this
application. A copy of the existing licence was appended to the
report at Appendix A.
·
The applicant proposed to promote the licensing objectives by
taking additional steps identified at section M of the application
form which was attached to the report at Appendix B.
·
Appendix C of the report identified the location of the
premises.
·
Representations in objection had been made by the following in
their capacity as responsible authorities:
o
West Yorkshire Police had made an out-right objection. A copy of
this was attached to the report at Appendix D.
o
Environmental Protection Team had suggested measures in relation to
a reduction to the hours applied for and litter management. This
was appended to the report at Appendix E.
o
Public Health Localities Team had also submitted a representation
which was attached to the report at Appendix F.
·
Representations had also been received from a local resident, Ward
Councillors, and a Member of Parliament. There was also an
individual objection from one of the local Ward Councillors. These
objections were appended to the report at Appendix G.
·
A list of premises in the local area, with the licensed hours and
activities was attached at Appendix H.
Ms Bell
provided the Licensing Sub-Committee with the following
information:
- Members attention was directed to Appendix C of the report which
showed the location of the premises.
- The
premises is a traditional corner shop which serves the local
community. She said that her client had received requests to
purchase alcohol outside the permitted hours, showing there was a
demand for extended hours.
- The
premises was in a working-class location which had customers who
worked shifts at local factories and warehouses who worked until
01:00am. It was the applicants view that the later opening times
would also better suit the needs of the local
residents.
- Mr
Ahmed had owned and operated the premises Booze Plus for two years.
During the two years he has had a good track record with no issues
for concern.
- Mr
Ahmed had previous experience of owning and operating a premises on
Alexander Road in Hyde Park for 25 years, also with no incidents on
record for these premises. It was noted that the premises had been
located within a student area and Mr Ahmed had challenged where
necessary for appropriate I.D.
- This
corner shop is on a busy commuter road which links Leeds City
Centre to Wortley. Therefore, the residents in the area live with
the existing background noise generated by vehicles along this
road.
- Ms
Bell was of the view that this area was not a ‘hot bed’
of nuisance and disorder, there had been no issues with the
premises and there was no evidence in relation to crime, or
incidents and there had been no calls in relation to the premises.
She confirmed there was no proposal for 24-hour sales.
- The
premises has CCTV.
- The
shop is known in the community as a no-nonsense premises. When
first taking ownership of the premises Mr Ahmed had to do more
challenges for age-appropriate sales and he had now established a
reputation as a responsible premises owner.
- The
premises is not within the Armley cumulative impact zone and Mr
Ahmed has no issues with street drinkers or noise outside his shop.
There is noise due to buses and large vehicles traveling on the
road outside the premises.
- In
response to the representations from the responsible authorities,
local councillors, the MP and residents.
Ms Bell said there were no concerns in relation to public health as
the premises were outside the cumulative impact zone and it was
noted that this zone was not due to be made wider. In relation to
general objections, it was said that no evidence of crime and
disorder could be linked to these premises and in her view the
objections from the councillors and MP sent the wrong message to
the community.
- Ms
Bell drew attention to Appendix H within the agenda pack to
highlight the fact that Carpatica 2,
also on Tong Road, had recently been granted a licence to sell
alcohol until midnight on Friday and Saturday. In her view this
showed an inconsistency in operating hours in this
area.
In
response to questions from Members the following information was
provided:
- Having
a premises in a mainly student area had meant that Mr Ahmed had
experience of challenging age-related products. He knew what he was
doing when he took ownership of the premises and has a good track
record at both premises.
- There
were no noise issues from the premises.
- The
Council had recently been reviewing its Cumulative Impact Policy
and could have widened the Armley zone but had not done so. The
issues in the Armley / Wortley area were well documented, but the
letters from the councillors and residents had been very general
with no specific issues made.
West
Yorkshire Police provided the following information:
- In
this area there is a history of anti-social behaviour and street
drinking. The premises is situated very close to the cumulative
impact zone for Armley. It was the view that to extend the hours of
operation would attract street drinkers to these premises
particularly in the earlier hours. It was the view that this would
have an impact on the lives of residents, workers and children on their way to work and
school. It was the view of the Police that the later hours would
attract youths to the area, and this would increase anti-social
behaviour. Supplementary information had been provided for the
Sub-Committee in relation to anti-social behaviour in a location
which is across the road from Booze Plus.
- The
PCSO for the area explained that this area was one of the most
deprived areas in Leeds with residents facing social and economic
challenges. There is a high level of crime in this area. It was
noted that the PCSO had with him statistical evidence of the types
of crimes should the Sub-Committee wish to see this. The area has
numerous tower blocks, houses of multiple occupation and family
homes, it does not have a night-time economy and does not need
one.
- Most
of the licensed premises in the area only operate until midnight.
There are no other premises trading until 03:00am. It was the view
that if this licence was granted then crime in the area would
increase.
- It was
the view that noise pollution would increase, and this would
conflict with the daily routines of residents through sleep
deprivation.
- Tong
Road is a busy road during 07:30am-09:30am and 16:00 -19:00, but
there is little traffic after midnight.
- Statistical evidence was provided in relation to incidents in
the area.
- It was
acknowledged that Leeds City Council has a
number of policies to address issues of crime and disorder,
which include the West Yorkshire Mayor’s Plan, Safer Leeds
Plan and the Statement of Licensing Policy.
- The
Sub-committee were advised that the New Wortley Community Centre
was working with the community to address issues in the
area.
- It was
noted that Mr Ahmed had not contacted West Yorkshire Police with
his proposals for the extension to the operating hours prior to the
application, as would be expected from an operator aware of his
responsibilities to the local area/community. The Police added that
even if he had contacted them, they would still be objecting to
such extensive hours for a premises in this area.
Responding to questions, West Yorkshire Police provided the
following information:
- Street
drinkers in Armley are both young and older people.
- Youths
are involved in lower-level crime such as vehicle crime. They are
also involved in drug related activities.
- Older
People are generally involved in violent crime.
- It was
noted that there had been no issues in relation to the licence or
the licensee.
- There
had been no issues with premises in the area which operated until
midnight.
- There
is no parking outside Booze Plus premises, parking is available to
the front and rear outside residential properties.
Councillor Andy Parnham provided the following information to
the Members of the Sub Committee:
- All
the Armley Councillors strongly object to the extension of hours
for these premises. In their view it would be a disaster for the
local area. He was thankful to the Police for the information
provided at the meeting.
- He
said since being elected in May 2023, he had received numerous
calls for help in relation to anti-social behaviour, domestic
violence, and other violent incidents in this area.
- He
said that the New Wortley area was generally quiet after rush hour,
to extend the operating hours would be a disaster for the
local residents with customers parking
in front of residential properties into the early hours of the
morning.
- It was
noted that all the Armley councillors and the MP for Leeds West had
objected to the extension of the hours for these
premises.
An
officer from Public Health provided the following
information:
- He had
experience of working in the Armley and Wortley area, where they
had spoken to residents during health needs assessments for the
area.
- It was
noted that one of the main concerns was the impact of alcohol
addiction on young children in the area. This is one of the most
deprived areas of Leeds with 1,440 of children living within the
absolute low-income household’s threshold. There is evidence
of the impact of deprivation, inequalities impacting on adult
drinking behaviour both as role models for vulnerable and
impressionable young children and the impact inebriated parents,
carers and guardians have on the lives of children, resulting in
significant issues for the young people in later life.
- Examples of issues faced by children and residents in this
location were provided to the Sub-Committee. It was noted that
people in the area see drunk people whilst on their way to work or
school on a daily basis. Children had
informed the team that they were able to get older people or older
siblings to purchase alcohol for them.
- It was
the view of the public health officer that to grant a 21-hour
licence in this area would be a grave mistake.
The
officer from Environmental Protection informed the Sub-Committee of
the following:
- The
officer had 28 years of experience dealing with complaints in
relation to premises similar to this
premises. However, on this occasion there had been no complaints in
relation to the applicant’s premises. Complaints are usually
in relation to residents who lived above such premises, with people
feeling unsafe, due to number of people attending such premises
with late licences. It was noted that it was difficult to get
evidence about noise complaints due to a complainant being too
frightened.
- The
noise levels in early morning are generally quieter, therefore any
noise created is intensified.
- Environmental Protection had put in an objection to the premises
nearby called Carpatica 2 when they had
requested extended hours of operation. The premises licence holder
and Environmental Protection had compromised to allow Carpatica 2 to operate on Friday and Saturday until
midnight, which is consistent with other premises in the locality.
It was noted that this had been suggested to the applicant, but the
applicant had not taken up the suggestion.
- Issues
of noise pollution would come from cars pulling up to the premises
and car doors opening and shutting.
- It was
the view of the officer that the hours requested were excessive for
this area of Leeds.
Responding to questions from the Members, the Sub Committee were
provided with the following information:
- Members acknowledged that these premises were not in the
cumulative impact zone, but that the premises were only a 15-minute
walk away from the zone.
- Mr
Ahmed lives above the premises.
- Mr
Ahmed would agree to reducing the hours to 02:00am, his business
plan was to allow shift workers to purchase items on their way home
from work.
- Alcohol related crime incidents included street drinking,
vehicle crime and domestic incidents. It was noted that between
1st June 2023 and 1st January 2024 there had
been 110 incidents reported. It was difficult to breakdown the
figures to those incidents directly related to alcohol, as alcohol
could have been a contributing factor to other crimes.
- The
premises would be selling general grocery goods such as nappies,
milk, eggs, and formula milk, not just alcohol.
- The
applicant’s previous premises in Hyde Park had opened 24
hours and sold alcohol and general groceries.
- The
shift workers Mr Ahmed wishes to serve work at local warehouses
located on Geldard Road, Copley Hill and
Silver Royd Hill. The shifts finish at 01:00am.
Ms Bell
in summing up said:
- Mr
Ahmed has shown his experience as a responsible operator both at
his previous premises in Hyde Park and at Booze Plus. There were no
recorded incidents at either premises.
- Mr
Ahmed had explained that he has specific reason for requesting the
extension to his operating hours and would accept a reduction in
the hours to 02:00am.
- The
conditions offered by the applicant were good and included CCTV and
incident logbooks.
- It was
acknowledged that the area does have issues with street drinkers
and congregation of youths. However, in her view street drinkers
would not walk for 15 minutes to purchase alcohol from Mr
Ahmed’s premises when there are other premises closer and in
the cumulative impact zone.
- Mr
Ahmed wished to serve the community with a traditional corner
shop.
Members considerations included:
·
Information provided in the agenda pack and at the meeting.
·
Parking issues.
·
Extending the night-time economy.
·
The hours granted to Carpatica 2.
·
Working hours of shift workers
·
110 reported incidents in the area in the past 6 months.
·
Public health issues
·
Potential for anti-social behaviour and people congregating.
RESOLVED – To refuse the
application to extend the hours of operation as they would be
contrary to the licensing objectives in relation to crime and
disorder and public nuisance.
The meeting
concluded at 12:45